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Crime & Justiceby Fern Shen4:35 pmAug 29, 20170

Hogan: Baltimore’s criminals and victims “just the same people shooting each other”

“We’ve got to get them off the streets,” he said, vowing to propose a “truth in sentencing” law

Above: Gov. Larry Hogan at a news conference in Baltimore last year. (Fern Shen)

After a meeting Gov. Larry Hogan attended today about Baltimore’s high homicide rate, he made it clear who he blames for the problem – judges he said are going too easy on violent repeat offenders.

“They are not being sentenced to jail and that’s why they’re out on the streets,” Hogan said, addressing a scrum of reporters in the lobby below his downtown Baltimore office.

The fact that the judges chose not to send a representative to this meeting of the Baltimore City Criminal Justice Coordinating Council (BCCJCC), Hogan said, was “baffling and frankly disappointing.”

Expanding on his view of the problem, Hogan said the victims and the shooters are essentially the same group of people.

“The average person who’s been killed in the city has 11.9 arrests on their record,” he said.

“One day they’re the shooter, the next day they’re the victim and it’s just the same people shooting each other,” he said, “and we’ve got to get them off the streets.”

Hogan said he planned to include a “truth in sentencing” measure in his crime package in the next legislative session.

Mayor Catherine Pugh. (Fern Shen)

Mayor Catherine Pugh says there are too many suspended sentences. (Fern Shen)

Mayor Catherine Pugh seemed to echo Hogan’s themes and points.

“The governor was a little disturbed because none of the judges showed up,” she began, when asked her impressions of the meeting.

She, too, chided the judges.

“The conversation was about the judges and the judges weren’t in the room to hear the conversations,” Pugh said. “There are too many suspended sentences and we have repeat offenders continuing to walk the streets of our city.”

She also had stats to share about the problem:

“89% of  individuals who have come in contact with the criminal justice system have been in contact with the criminal justice system 9 to 11 times – that’s a real issue for the city of Baltimore,” she said.

Press and Public Kept Out

The meeting up in the William Donald Schaefer Tower was meant to address what’s been happening down on the streets – daily killings that are on pace to produce another 300-plus year for city homicides.

Hogan, a Republican, who has not attended the somewhat obscure Council’s monthly meetings in the past, made a point of announcing his plan to show up at this one – and bar the press and public from attending.

(A Brew reporter, like other members of the media, was told by a Department of General Services police officer today that reporters could not attend the meeting or even enter the building. Eventually reporters were permitted into the lobby.)

In meetings typically open to the public, the Council is composed of a representative of the mayor’s office, Baltimore Circuit Court, City Council, State’s Attorney’s office and the police.

Chief Judge Mary Ellen Barbera told Hogan in a letter that the judges would not attend, citing the rule of judicial conduct that says a judge “shall not be swayed by public clamor or fear of criticism.”

Attorney General Brian Frosh. (Fern Shen)

Attorney General Brian Frosh defended the absence of judges at the meeting. (Fern Shen)

Attorney General Brian E. Frosh, who attended the meeting, agreed that it would be “not proper” for the judges to attend the meeting.

“We have a problem in our country, led by the White House, of disrespect for the judiciary and disrespect for the rule of law,” Frosh said.

Frosh said he hoped that the Council’s meeting signaled greater cooperation that would result in more progress on fighting crime, but warned that “we’re not going to see results overnight.”

No New Strategies

As for tangible new strategies to combat the current crime wave, none was presented to reporters after the one-hour meeting.

State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby pointed to a previously cited funding increase for victim family services.

She also said that Acting Maryland U.S. Attorney Stephen Schenning has agreed to cross-designate two more city prosecutors as federal prosecutors to bring cases in the federal courts.

State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby . (Fern Shen)

State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby pointed to more funding for families of crime victims. (Fern Shen)

(Schenning and City Council President Bernard C. “Jack” Young were among those attending the meeting who chose not to talk to reporters afterwards.)

Pugh mentioned items on a “wish list” that she previously presented to Hogan that he has already agreed to.

They include the reinstatement of parole and probation officers who had been removed from police precincts by the Rawlings-Blake administration.

Davis: We’re on Third Base

Police Commissioner Kevin Davis echoed the words of the governor and mayor in calling for stronger sentencing,

Expressing his version of the statistic that Hogan and Pugh put forth, Davis said “our homicide victims have had 10.7 arrests apiece in a lifetime. That’s wildly disproportionate.”

Police Commissioner Kevin Davis. (Fern Shen)

Police Commissioner Kevin Davis says police and prosecutors are hobbled by a lenient judiciary. (Fern Shen)

Employing a baseball analogy for the crime fight, he said police and prosecutors have, in effect, “gotten us to third base.”

He was asked, “Are the judges the ones you think need to get us to home plate?”

“I think so,” Davis replied. “I think so.”

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